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867982980 2018-11-09T06:51:38Z AadaamS improving ref with source date via Visual Editor
867982458 2018-11-09T06:44:42Z AadaamS /* Trial */ per [[Der Spiegel]] " Zu Prozessbeginn hat der Angeklagte die Tat eingeräumt"
867981538 2018-11-09T06:30:49Z AadaamS more sources
867981407 2018-11-09T06:29:37Z AadaamS /* Trial */ more details
867981303 2018-11-09T06:28:25Z AadaamS trial began in October 2018
867981030 2018-11-09T06:24:53Z AadaamS source from May 2018 - more details from the Hamburger Staatsanwaltschaft (prosecutor's office)
867980806 2018-11-09T06:21:49Z AadaamS source from May 2018, this event has been covered over time
867980266 2018-11-09T06:14:22Z AadaamS improving source from France. This event has received international attention
867725669 2018-11-07T16:22:05Z Icewhiz Undid revision 867556432 by [[Special:Contributions/Simonm223|Simonm223]] ([[User talk:Simonm223|talk]]) restore blanked section - replaced suspect/assailant with perpatrator.
867723268 2018-11-07T16:03:51Z E.M.Gregory /* Attack */
867723139 2018-11-07T16:03:13Z E.M.Gregory Undid revision 867699532 by [[Special:Contributions/Simonm223|Simonm223]] ([[User talk:Simonm223|talk]]) it looks bad to start an AfD, then delete reliably sourced biographical material from article
867699532 2018-11-07T12:50:25Z Simonm223 The immigration status of the suspect is not a relevant detail of this non-notable crime.
867699092 2018-11-07T12:45:21Z E.M.Gregory /* Attack */ expand, soruce
867698161 2018-11-07T12:33:08Z E.M.Gregory /* Attack */ expand, source
867563067 2018-11-06T14:45:04Z Simonm223 AfD: Nominated for deletion; see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018 Hamburg stabbing attack (2nd nomination)]].
867562957 2018-11-06T14:44:15Z Simonm223 Undid revision 867562874 by [[Special:Contributions/Simonm223|Simonm223]] ([[User talk:Simonm223|talk]]) I screwed up the AfD format. Oops.
867562874 2018-11-06T14:43:29Z Simonm223 AfD: Nominated for deletion; see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018 Hamburg stabbing attack (2nd nomination)]].
867560002 2018-11-06T14:19:34Z AnomieBOT Rescuing orphaned refs ("sz" from rev 867544832; "ds" from rev 867544832)
867556944 2018-11-06T13:58:39Z Simonm223 See also we can't say he did it before a trial
867556811 2018-11-06T13:57:45Z Simonm223 /* Similar cases */ Irrelevant.
867556668 2018-11-06T13:56:51Z Simonm223 /* See also */ irrelevant
867556636 2018-11-06T13:56:38Z Simonm223 /* Attack */ if not convicted we can't call them a perpetrator and claim in unambiguous language that they committed the crime. Wikipedia is not above the courts. National origin of attacker and victim not relevant.
867556432 2018-11-06T13:54:24Z Simonm223 /* Perpetrator and motive */ section blanking as it wasn't salvagable. The sources don't support calling the suspect a perpetrator as it is not clear he has stood trial. Clear [[WP:BLPCRIME]] violation.
867544832 2018-11-06T11:55:49Z Deb /* Similar cases */ in context
867376464 2018-11-05T09:22:43Z Deb /* See also */ if a general topic is included in "See also", there is no need to include specific examples as well
867376380 2018-11-05T09:21:36Z Deb /* Similar cases */ only one source claims there were similarities
867359944 2018-11-05T05:45:47Z AadaamS restoring per [[WP:PRESERVE]]. No [[WP:RS]] or expert has condemned the [[Münchner Merkur]] as neither "racist media" nor being unreliable. It is a regular newspaper in Munich. Such serious allegations must be supported by sources. [[WP:IDONTLIKEIT]] is not a valid reason to delete WPRS material. Kind regards.
867289388 2018-11-04T20:59:19Z Deb using the English term
867284305 2018-11-04T20:23:07Z Simonm223 Undid revision 867129375 by [[Special:Contributions/AadaamS|AadaamS]] ([[User talk:AadaamS|talk]]) "similar" cases are not [[WP:DUE]] just because a racist media tries to sensationalize these cases doesn't make that encyclopedically relevant.
867129375 2018-11-03T21:23:31Z AadaamS Undid revision 867099063 by [[Special:Contributions/Simonm223|Simonm223]] ([[User talk:Simonm223|talk]]) Neither wp-text nor the source say the cases are _related_, the text & source say the cases are _similar_. The source is faithfully represented and info is [[WP:V]] verified by [[WP:RS]].
867099063 2018-11-03T17:13:14Z Simonm223 Undid revision 867085331 by [[Special:Contributions/AadaamS|AadaamS]] ([[User talk:AadaamS|talk]]) Unrelated incidents. Just because a source mentions two unrelated crimes does not make it [[WP:DUE]]
867085331 2018-11-03T15:21:13Z AadaamS Reverted [[WP:AGF|good faith]] edits by [[Special:Contributions/Deb|Deb]] ([[User talk:Deb|talk]]): Restoring deletion (AGF). Similarities reported by [[WP:RS]]. ([[WP:TW|TW]])
867068037 2018-11-03T12:34:41Z Deb /* Similar cases */ remove paragraph consisting solely of speculation
862782799 2018-10-06T17:38:50Z AadaamS /* Perpetrator and motive */ restoring info wrongly deleted as "tabloid", Der Spiegel is a reliable weekly news magazine, not a tabloid.
859541496 2018-09-14T17:57:05Z AadaamS /* Perpetrator and motive */ details
859412820 2018-09-13T22:01:39Z 107.242.117.7 Beheaded the child. I was there. I saw it.
859412689 2018-09-13T22:00:42Z 107.242.117.7 The savage beheaded his daughter. I was there. I saw it.
854523756 2018-08-12T00:20:08Z Jim Michael /* References */
854523587 2018-08-12T00:18:24Z Jim Michael /* References */
854523498 2018-08-12T00:17:38Z Jim Michael /* References */
851706909 2018-07-24T02:27:53Z Place Clichy Undid revision 849343149 by [[Special:Contributions/2A02:A03F:62D3:7600:8D2B:8BA:4711:DB62|2A02:A03F:62D3:7600:8D2B:8BA:4711:DB62]] ([[User talk:2A02:A03F:62D3:7600:8D2B:8BA:4711:DB62|talk]]): not [[WP:Defining|defining]], and no connection to any "crisis" claimed in article.
849368134 2018-07-08T13:59:31Z Flooded with them hundreds Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/174.59.101.111|174.59.101.111]] ([[User talk:174.59.101.111|talk]]): not providing a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] ([[WP:CITE]], [[WP:RS]]) ([[WP:HG|HG]]) (3.3.5)
849367601 2018-07-08T13:53:53Z 174.59.101.111
849356698 2018-07-08T12:34:14Z AadaamS accurate representation of source: the Merkur article is not an opinion piece, it's in the news section.
849343353 2018-07-08T10:25:49Z 2A02:A03F:62D3:7600:8D2B:8BA:4711:DB62 Last name of the perpetretor is known
849343149 2018-07-08T10:23:30Z 2A02:A03F:62D3:7600:8D2B:8BA:4711:DB62
849115284 2018-07-06T16:48:09Z AnomieBOT Dating maintenance tags: {{Cn}}
849101100 2018-07-06T14:47:54Z 86.171.229.97 /* Perpetrator and motive */ improving english and removing tabloid esque nonsense
848046162 2018-06-29T13:06:33Z Deb grammar
847949064 2018-06-28T21:30:24Z Deb /* Similar cases */ clarify, grammar
847338279 2018-06-24T16:26:10Z AadaamS /* Similar cases */ accurate translation from German
847294943 2018-06-24T08:32:12Z Deb amend wording - use of "nonetheless" is [[WP:SYNTH]]
847294876 2018-06-24T08:31:15Z Deb /* Perpetrator and motive */ fix English - word order can completely change the meaning of a sentence
847294629 2018-06-24T08:28:59Z Deb /* Similar cases */ clarify - whether these cases are "similar" will always be POV even if it appears in a source
847238521 2018-06-23T21:39:47Z AadaamS Undid revision 847230268 by [[Special:Contributions/Deb|Deb]] ([[User talk:Deb|talk]]) The similar cases are listed in the merkur.de source, (ähnliche Taten in Kiel und Teningen) thus similar per source
847230268 2018-06-23T20:40:33Z Deb /* Similar cases */ remove section - a header like this can only indicate personal opinion and is thus not NPOV
847228723 2018-06-23T20:28:06Z Greywin ref
847228638 2018-06-23T20:27:13Z Greywin This is all perfectly sourced, read the [[WP:RS]] - and stop wikihounding me! Thank you
847228164 2018-06-23T20:23:23Z Deb tag for citations
845732198 2018-06-13T19:03:55Z Deb /* Similar cases */ remove section - a header like this can only indicate personal opinion and is thus not NPOV
841745952 2018-05-17T19:46:58Z Pincrete /* Similar cases */ A person "with German papers" is called "a German" (it's what the source says) - the source does not mention the ethnicity of the Kiel man - most importantly, [[WP:BLP]], guilt or innocence is established by judges & juries not by WP editors, that is also an important German tradition AFAIK
841740106 2018-05-17T19:00:22Z Greywin Undid revision 841605672 by [[Special:Contributions/Pincrete|Pincrete]] ([[User talk:Pincrete|talk]]) The similarity is that close relatives are brutally murdered in public with blade weapons, among them small children - which didn't happen in Germany before - and it is made by [[WP:RS]]
841606410 2018-05-16T21:22:50Z Pincrete /* Attack */
841606271 2018-05-16T21:21:51Z Pincrete /* Attack */ intended meaning is probably 'voluntarily', but this phrasing implies he didn't receive help in making the phone call
841605950 2018-05-16T21:19:33Z Pincrete /* Attack */ more usual term
841605830 2018-05-16T21:18:40Z Pincrete /* Attack */ euphemism
841605672 2018-05-16T21:17:28Z Pincrete /* Similar cases */ who claims they are similar? Are these all cases of husbands murdering their wives? Or what is the similarity?
841605223 2018-05-16T21:13:38Z Pincrete /* Attack */ her child as well
841605037 2018-05-16T21:12:08Z Pincrete /* Perpetrator and motive */ ce
841604933 2018-05-16T21:11:13Z Pincrete /* top */ ce
840495700 2018-05-10T08:01:07Z AadaamS /* Similar cases */ wording
837625158 2018-04-22T00:22:42Z PrimeBOT /* top */[[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/PrimeBOT 17|Task 17]] - remove [[UTM parameters]] (Google analytics) from URLs
837609558 2018-04-21T22:12:43Z Killiondude AFD closed as keep ([[WP:XFDC|XFDcloser]])
836892806 2018-04-17T13:48:46Z XavierItzm /* Attack */ source: Bild
836890219 2018-04-17T13:29:37Z XavierItzm /* Attack */ source: Cicero Magazine
836647958 2018-04-16T01:03:50Z E.M.Gregory /* See also */ specify link
836633165 2018-04-15T23:19:04Z XavierItzm /* Perpetrator and motive */ Source: Süddeutsche Zeitung
836593662 2018-04-15T18:48:13Z Greywin add
836325959 2018-04-14T02:16:00Z Natureium Nominated for deletion; see [[:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018 Hamburg stabbing attack]]. ([[WP:TW|TW]])
836281081 2018-04-13T19:59:11Z Greywin /* Perpetrator and motive */ add fact
836280440 2018-04-13T19:54:46Z Greywin /* Attack */ name, wording
836280310 2018-04-13T19:53:49Z Greywin corrected
836279823 2018-04-13T19:50:32Z Greywin add
836279012 2018-04-13T19:44:48Z FallingGravity removed [[Category:2018 murders in Germany]]; added [[Category:2018 crimes in Germany]] using [[WP:HC|HotCat]]
836276858 2018-04-13T19:27:52Z Greywin more sources
836275969 2018-04-13T19:21:18Z Greywin more sources
836272427 2018-04-13T18:55:03Z Greywin No sufficient reason given for this
836271999 2018-04-13T18:52:01Z Natureium Nominated page for deletion using [[Wikipedia:Page Curation|Page Curation]] (subst:prod)
836269799 2018-04-13T18:36:38Z Greywin /* Similar cases */ t
836269486 2018-04-13T18:34:09Z Greywin /* Similar cases */ add
836269100 2018-04-13T18:31:12Z Greywin /* Reactions */ t
836269049 2018-04-13T18:30:46Z Greywin add
836266324 2018-04-13T18:10:49Z Greywin add
836264471 2018-04-13T17:55:43Z Greywin link
836264351 2018-04-13T17:54:52Z Greywin German event