Red Forman
| Red Forman | |
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| That '70s Show character | |
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| First appearance | That '70s Pilot |
| Last appearance | That '70s Finale |
| Created by | Mark Brazill |
| Portrayed by | Kurtwood Smith Corey Landis (Young Red) |
| Information | |
| Nickname | Red, Mr. Forman |
| Gender | Male |
| Occupation | Retired and Former Navy Chief Petty Officer: World War II veteran Korean War veteran Former: Auto parts factory supervisor Department store supervisor Muffler shop owner |
| Family | Albert Forman (father; deceased) Bernice Forman (mother; deceased) Paul Forman(brother) Jerry Forman (brother) Marty Forman (brother) |
| Spouse | Kitty Forman (née Sigurdson) |
| Children | Laurie Forman Eric Forman Steven Hyde (foster son) |
| Relatives | Burt Sigurdson (father-in-law; deceased) Bea Sigurdson (mother-in-law) Paula Sigurdson (sister-in-law) Penny Sigurdson (niece by marriage) Pearl (maternal aunt-in-law) Fez (ex-son-in-law) |
| Nationality | American |
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Reginald Albert "Red" Forman[1] is a fictional character on the Fox sitcom That '70s Show, portrayed by Kurtwood Smith. The father of main character Eric Forman and husband of Kitty Forman, Red is a retired factory worker and war veteran living in Point Place, Wisconsin.
Character biography[edit]
Personality[edit]
Red is the perpetually disgruntled, ill-tempered father of Eric and Laurie Forman and Kitty Forman's husband as well as the foster father to Steven Hyde. He is seemingly insensitive to other people, but admits frequently in the series that this is to maintain his self-identity of being a "man". In some episodes, his tough exterior crumbles when he encounters other people's needs and he eventually makes decisions that show ethical regard for doing what is right.
His relationship with his children is complex. Although he dotes on his lying, manipulative, promiscuous daughter, Laurie (with whom, tellingly, Kitty has a strained and contentious relationship) until season 2 when he finds out she's living with a man in Chicago, he points out Eric's perceived flaws and faults mercilessly, often calling him “dumbass”. The two clash in most episodes with Eric teasing his father, or "poking the bear". Red frequently threatens to "put my foot up your ass" to Eric but is never seen physically disciplining his son (In the series finale, he admits that the only time he ever literally did it was during his service in Iwo Jima), usually punishing him with chores, fines, and, once, by imposing a strict curfew, which leads to windows being nailed shut, bed checks, etc. until Kitty calls an end to it. Eric usually views these paternal idiosyncrasies in a humorous light, even lampooning them, but sometimes seems to be holding in his own anger and doing a slow burn.
On other occasions, father and son unite to collude in a scheme or plot, share a joke, or even face the displeasure of Kitty together. Many episodes show the respect between the two characters, with Red even admitting on one occasion that his love for Eric does not need to be articulated, it is "just a given". Despite Red's firm stance with his son, he protects Eric when the situation calls for it; for example, in one episode when Bob accuses Eric of being a poor influence on his daughter, Red gives him a cold send-off.
Red finds his neighbors, Bob and Midge Pinciotti, perplexing and vexatious. Bob is genial but insensitive, and Midge is rather dim-witted. Their daughter, Donna, is Eric's girlfriend. Red dislikes spending time in their company, although is frequently compelled to do so by his wife, Kitty. In particular, his views of Bob range from annoyance to contempt. Despite this antagonistic attitude, several episodes portray Red as a good neighbor who will come to the assistance of Bob when absolutely needed.
Red shows very strict discipline to those with lesser authority than himself (especially the teenagers), from which he seems to take joy. He can also be curt with those in authority, though this trait in him is rare. On one occasion, when Red and Kitty are making out in their car, a policeman knocks on the window, not realizing it is a married couple inside. Red sharply dispatches him and Kitty says, "How sweet, you let him off with a warning".
In his youth, Red served in the U.S. Navy (in the season 3 episode, "Jackie Bags Hyde", he is shown wearing the dress-blue uniform of a Chief Petty Officer for Veterans Day) and often brings up memories of his service in Korea. Red was a Boatswain Mate in the Navy during World War II and Korea. Red was shown to have been a Machinist Mate second class during a flashback where he is remembering how he met Kitty (Season 3, Episode 24), as a side note he is not wearing any warfare pin at that time. He served on a destroyer but also saw land combat in Guadalcanal (August 1942 – February 1943) and Korea (1950 – 1953). As evidenced in Season 8, Episode 6 "Long Away," Red is wearing Submarine Warfare (Dolphins) on his garrison cap during the Veterans reunion.
In one episode, he and Eric have both completely forgotten about Kitty's birthday, which deeply upsets her. After purchasing her some very low quality "gifts" from the only open nearby establishment, a garage, items Kitty immediately recognizes as junk, Red cheers her up by taking her square-dancing, an activity she enjoys.
Red loves to drink beer and consume food which is bad for his health, having suffered from a heart attack on one occasion. Red is also shown as a die-hard fan of the Green Bay Packers, even, in one episode, kicking out visiting new neighbors, Josh and Jeff who are a gay male couple, solely because they were Minnesota Vikings fans (he had no issue with their sexual orientation). He is also a fan of the Milwaukee Bucks and the Milwaukee Brewers. An exception appears to lie for his rooting interests in college football, however, where he appears to favor the Notre Dame Fighting Irish over the Wisconsin Badgers.
Health problems[edit]
Red's health was a running gag on the show. In the third and sixth seasons, he is briefly put on a diet that requires him to cut out red meat among other foods that he generally likes and, in stereotypical sitcom fashion, he is forced to eat "healthy" food that is good for him but that he finds unappealing. On both occasions, he defies the diet by eating "real food" behind Kitty's back. When faced with mush, he comments "This isn't food, this is what food eats!" When faced with his diet in the sixth season, after his heart attack upon learning Laurie has married Fez (he has a problem with foreigners), he throws the list of what he cannot have away, explaining to Kitty that if he had known what he would be asked to give up, "I would have walked straight into that bright light and never looked back!"
At one point, shortly after finding out that Eric and Donna were moving to Madison, Red went fishing to calm down, and comes back with the surprising news that he is proud of Eric for his initiative in moving away and becoming engaged, and even more so for his standing up to Red by insisting on marrying Donna despite Red's disapproval. An angry Kitty and an overjoyed Eric listen while Red agrees to pay for both the wedding and Eric's college fund. He also shakes Eric's hand, proudly telling his son that he is now a man and he has his blessing. Laurie caused Red a heart attack just before Eric was about to leave for Madison when she announced she had married Fez so he could stay in the country. After his heart attack, which prompts Eric to stay home, Red's attitude towards Eric does a complete reversal, and Red goes back to calling his son "dumbass", presumably due to his disappointment in Eric's failure to live up to his expectations yet again, although he told Eric that he was proud of him for deciding to stay and help the family instead of leaving for college. This reversal could be due to Eric leaving Donna at the altar and subsequently spending a year doing nothing, or the producers' use of a "Reset Button" to get the status quo back.
Political leanings[edit]
For the first few seasons of the series' run, Red is established as a blue collar conservative. He made a joke at Nixon's expense in the first season after Eric streaked through the crowd while wearing a Nixon mask and, in a pivotal moment, expressed disdain for Gerald Ford (when allowed to ask President Ford a question he said "Hey 'Gerry', here's my question: 'How the hell could you pardon Nixon?'") in front of the entire town. Later seasons portrayed him to be a staunch Republican, who became angry when Eric made an anti-Nixon joke in the fifth season, which Eric tries to cover by replying, "Nixon was framed and Kennedy was a commie."
Red feels strongly about the founding principles of the American government, owing to his service in the Navy as a Boatswain's Mate. He also tries to live up to what are generally considered American "family values": hard work, devotion to his family and being faithful to his wife. He is disgusted by swinger sex clubs (which he considers immoral) and political corruption (on hearing that Jackie's wealthy father may be able to bribe his way out of jail, an appalled Red mutters, "I'm so glad I took a piece of shrapnel to make that possible").
Red also dislikes foreigners, which is the main reason he doesn't see eye-to-eye with Fez. One episode, "Hunting" saw him taking offense at Fez's remark of, "Not everything in the Constitution makes sense." He dislikes anyone and anything not from America – despite driving a Toyota. In fact, out of everyone in his family, he was the most comfortable and casual when Hyde's biological father William Barnett (an African-American) came to his house. He once described Canada and France as "lesser countries", and was upset to find that his daughter Laurie's room had posters of foreign cars on her bedroom walls after Hyde moved into it, and generally refers to the rest of the world as "not America". Along with Canada and France, Red also dislikes Germany, Japan and Great Britain, though not explicitly stated, Italy (for their role in World War II) and, especially, North Korea as he fought there. He also seems bitter about America not winning the Vietnam War, claiming, "We didn't lose the war, it was a tie". In one episode, while Hyde was stating a conspiracy theory about the government putting tracking devices in their brains, Red patriotically replied, "Without our government, you'd be stuck in Siberia now, sucking the juice from a rotten commie potato. Let me tell you something. If the U.S. government decides to stick a tracking device up your ass, you say, 'Thank You! and God Bless America! '" Insulting communism is a favorite pastime with Red such as when he calls Eric "the laziest non-communist I ever met". However, when he sells his muffler shop so he can retire he says he does not care if the store is converted to a "communist recreation center".
Relationship with the teenagers[edit]
Although deep down Red does genuinely care about Eric's friends, he doesn't like them frequently hanging out in his home. One of his favorite phrases to describe Eric and his friends is "dumbass". He also threatens the teens that he will put his "foot in your ass". In the finale, he claims that the only time he ever put his foot in someone's ass was in Iwo Jima, something that he declines to go into detail about. His antagonism towards the teenagers is mainly because Red prefers peace and quiet, believing that since he has worked hard and raised his children, he deserves time to himself and with Kitty. With regards to his neighbors Bob and Midge Pinciotti, it is indicated that Red used to enjoy their friendship before they started to get "into every fad there is". Even though he feels that Bob is a "good neighbor and a good friend", he gets easily annoyed in Bob's presence.
He is a tough, no-nonsense father and tends to favor his daughter Laurie (Lisa Robin Kelly & Christina Moore) and foster son Hyde (Danny Masterson) over his son Eric (Topher Grace), whom he considers soft, skinny, twitchy and wimpy. He always sees Laurie as "a giant apple" instead of the mean-spirited, promiscuous person she truly is but becomes wiser to her in the second season after finding out she lied to him about moving in with a friend when she was really living with a young man. In one episode, Kitty asks Red why he is so tough on Eric, only to have Red respond, "The same reason my old man was so tough on me", indicating that he went through a similar childhood to Eric's. Though Red often puts his own son down because he wants him to "be a man like himself", it cannot be denied that Eric is merely a younger version of his father in the sense that both have a very dry sense of humor and tend to be the sanest persons in their respective circles of friends. On a few occasions in season one, Red shows Eric affection. When the two return from a wrestling match, they wrestle for a bit before Red gave Eric a hug. Later on, when Red's mother dies, Red calls Eric over for a hug with him and Kitty in a family moment. In the final episode of season seven, as Eric is leaving for Africa, Red has a real heart-to-heart talk with Eric, in which he admitted he loved him and that he would miss him, culminating in a hug between father and son. In the season 8 premiere, Kitty tries to get Red to say something nice for Eric on the tape recorder. Red consistently refuses and appears to revel in Eric being gone. However, when Kitty questions his feelings on the matter, Red admitted that he honestly missed Eric. (Unbeknownst to Red, though, Kitty secretly recorded him saying this). Red also seems to respect his son's resistance as shown when he told Eric he respected him for staying with Donna despite Red's efforts.
Most of the time, Red treats Eric's friend Hyde (Danny Masterson), who moved in with the Formans' at the end of the first season, better than he treats his own son; perhaps this is because Red thinks Hyde needs a father figure as his own left him. Red also shows appreciation to Hyde for his mechanical skills, evident from when he opened his own muffler store. Hyde quickly assembles muffler displays, while Eric is putting up decorations. Also, Red often more readily has heart-to-hearts with Hyde than with Eric. When Hyde is arrested for possession of marijuana (which had actually belonged to Jackie), he wanted to throw Hyde out, but soon had a change of heart and let him stay after learning the truth. However, this doesn't stop Red from giving Hyde an extremely long telling off. Hyde assumed the Formans would want him to move out on his eighteenth birthday because all of Hyde's relatives had to move out of their places when they were eighteen. Red told Hyde that he needed to stay at the Formans' house so he would not end up like his relatives (who were either dead, in jail, or "pumping gas"). Much of this comes from Hyde's troubled background and Red's view that Hyde just needs some direction in life.
On the other hand, a few instances have shown that Red still cares about Eric, and it is clear that Red's being hard on him is Red's way of trying to toughen Eric up to prepare him for the real world (he once stated that, as Eric's father, it was his job to make Eric a man, "which he's not"). Red once told Eric, "I love you", but he was drugged after a visit to the dentist. After Eric later said it back and some awkwardness ensued, Red said that you should only say that when you're drunk, dying or in trouble—"Otherwise, it's just a given".
Like Kitty, Red is often forced to act as a parental figure for Eric's friends Kelso (Ashton Kutcher), Fez (Wilmer Valderrama), Jackie (Mila Kunis), Hyde (Danny Masterson) and Donna (Laura Prepon)—albeit reluctantly. He usually only helps out at Kitty's insistence or simply to get the teens out of his house. Red actually likes Donna, mostly because he thinks that if Eric has a son with her he will be good at sports and both freely and cheerily admits she is too good for his own son, and also that if Eric and Donna get married Eric will leave the house. Red has a low opinion of Kelso and Fez, calling Kelso a "Kettlehead" and referring to Fez as the "foreign kid", and sometimes by the generic names of "Haji", "Sabu", "Ali Baba", "Tutankhamun" or "Anwar". However, he has bonded with them both a few times throughout the series, such as when he cooperated with Kelso to change the Pong electronic game so they can make the paddles smaller, thus making the game more challenging. Red also bonded with Fez when he gave Fez advice that it is not a good idea to mix women and alcohol together. Early on, Red stated that Jackie is his favorite out of all of Eric's friends. He says unlike the others, she is "not useless" because she perfectly held a flashlight for him while he worked on his car, while Eric was incapable of this simple task. Jackie has hugged Red on a few occasions, at least half of which he returned.
In the final season, Red takes a liking to Hyde's new friend and co-worker, Randy Pearson (Josh Meyers). Red respects Randy simply because he's the polar opposite of Eric: masculine, crafty and not at all obsessed with Star Wars (though in one episode, it is shown that Randy is indeed a fan), superficially stating '"Not once has he tried to teach me the ways of the Force". Unlike Kitty, Red had no problem with him starting a relationship with Donna.
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