Let's Talk About Love
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3rd Avenue | |
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| Also known as | 3rd Ave |
| Origin | Baton Rouge, Louisiana, United States |
| Genres | R&B, quiet storm, new jack swing, soul |
| Years active | 1990–1993 |
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| Associated acts | The Deele |
| Past members | Maurice "Moe-P" Pearl Eric Jason Robinson Brad Nelson |
3rd Avenue, comprised of Maurice "Moe-P" Pearl, Eric Jason Robinson, and Brad Nelson, were an American trio of R&B vocalists signed to SOLAR Records (Sound of Los Angeles Records), a Los Angeles-based label built from the existing roster of the former Soul Train Records founded by Don Cornelius.[1][2][3]
History[edit]
Beginnings and initial group success[edit]
3rd Avenue, originally from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, gained recognition when Pabst Brewing Company contracted the group to perform commercial jingles for Olde English 800, a brand of malted liquor marketed towards the "urban contemporary market". [4] The resulting exposure from the commercials led to the group signing a recording contract with SOLAR, who had recently signed a distribution agreement with Epic Records as their previous distribution deal lapsed in 1989.[5][6] "The Minute You Fall In Love", a record from their upcoming debut album, was placed onto the Billboard R&B Albums Chart Top 10-peaking Deep Cover Soundtrack, distributed by SOLAR/Epic and released in early 1992. [7][8] The group's label debut was deemed a "priority project" by SOLAR executives in a June 1992 Billboard article [9] alongside the launch of a female R&B trio (Times 3 - who had already released their debut album [10]), and 3rd Avenue members Pearl and Robinson co-wrote portions of the project alongside producer Dennis "Den Den" Nelson. Additionally, Robinson, Pearl, and Dennis Nelson co-wrote two outtakes from the album that appeared on an initial Wilder Brothers Recording Studio cassette pressing: "Freak Me" and "Wiggle It". [11] Their debut album Let's Talk About Love was released in June 1992.
Let's Talk About Love[edit]
For other uses, see Let's Talk About Love (disambiguation).
Let's Talk About Love is 3rd Avenue's debut album released by SOLAR/Epic Records, and remains their sole album as a group. [12] Lead single "I’ve Gotta Have It" remained on the Billboard R&B Songs chart for 7 weeks, and the second single, a remixed version of the title track, lasted 6 weeks.[1][13] While it is currently unknown whether the album reached the R&B charts, the singles peaked at #66 and #58 respectively.[1] Primarily new jack swing-influenced with traces of funk and contemporary r&b, the album underperformed. Other than two contributions from notable Boyz II Men and Today production team The Characters, most work on the album was completed in-house at SOLAR, with frequent SOLAR writers Tania Carmenatti, Dennis "Den Den" Nelson, Dynasty member William Shelby, The Time member Ricky Darnell "Freeze" Smith, and Johnny Thomas Jr. (among others) providing songwriting and production alongside group members Pearl and Robinson.[14]
The track listing, writing credits and other album information are courtesy of Spotify and Billboard. [14][15]
| Let's Talk About Love | |
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| 📅 Released | June 9, 1992 |
| 🎙️ Recorded | 1991-1992 |
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| ⏳ Length | 53:12 |
| 🏷️ Label | |
| 🤑 Producer | |
| Singles from Let's Talk About Love | |
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Buy this album 3rd Avenue (R&B Group) or listen to it on amazon
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| No. | Title | Writer(s) | Producer(s) | Length |
| 1. | "I've Gotta Have It" | The Characters | 4:47 | |
| 2. | "The Minute You Fall In Love" |
| The Characters | 5:29 |
| 3. | "Another Lover" | Dennis "Den Den" Nelson | 4:01 | |
| 4. | "Sneakin' In The Alley With Sally" |
| Dennis "Den-Den" Nelson | 4:45 |
| 5. | "Annie's Apple Pie" |
| Dennis "Den-Den" Nelson | 4:25 |
| 6. | "Let's Take Our Time" |
| Dennis "Den-Den" Nelson | 5:03 |
| 7. | "Let's Talk About Love (Remix)" |
| Dennis "Den-Den" Nelson | 4:25 |
| 8. | "Playing The Fool" | Rickey "Freeze" Smith | 5:41 | |
| 9. | "Show Me" |
| Dennis "Den-Den" Nelson | 4:34 |
| 10. | "Love Me Just A Little Bit More" |
| Dennis "Den-Den" Nelson | 4:22 |
| 11. | "One Kiss" |
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| 5:20 |
| Total length: | 53:12 | |||
| 2019 Unidisc deluxe edition | ||||
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| No. | Title | Writer(s) | Producer(s) | Length |
| 12. | "I've Gotta Have It - 12" Remix (Bonus Track)" |
| The Characters | 5:37 |
| 13. | "I've Gotta Have It - Smooth Characters Mix (Bonus Track)" |
| The Characters | 4:53 |
| 14. | "I've Gotta Have It - Go for Your Mix (Bonus Track)" |
| The Characters | 3:40 |
| 15. | "I've Gotta Have It - Bonus Beats (Bonus Track)" |
| The Characters | 2:21 |
| 16. | "Let's Talk About Love - Original Mix (Bonus Track)" |
| The Characters | 4:21 |
| 17. | "Let's Talk About Love - Instrumental (Bonus Track)" |
| Dennis "Den-Den" Nelson | 4:25 |
| Total length: | 78:29 | |||
| Unreleased Tracks - (Appeared on a 1992 Demo Cassette Pressing, and later leaked to YouTube) | ||||
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| No. | Title | Writer(s) | Producer(s) | Length |
| 4. | "Freak Me" |
| Dennis "Den-Den" Nelson | |
| 6. | "Wiggle It" |
| Dennis "Den-Den" Nelson | |
Singles[edit]
| Title | Year | Peak chart positions | Certifications | Album |
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US R&B | ||||
| "I've Gotta Have It" | 1992 | 66 [16][17] | Let's Talk About Love | |
| "Let's Talk About Love (Remix)" | 58 [1] |
SOLAR decline and group dissolution[edit]
In 1993, 3rd Avenue wrote "Baby, I'm Hooked on You" for SOLAR labelmate and Cincinnati-based R&B Group The Deele's final 1993 album An Invitation To Love. Robinson also contributed "My Love for You Will Last Forever" and "Are You Ready To Be Loved?", and co-wrote additional album track "Feel It" alongside Vincent Herbert and SOLAR writer Tania Carmenatti.[11] An Invitation To Love, a foray into a more hip-hop-influenced, new jack swing style without original members Kevin Roberson, Kenneth Edmonds and Antonio Reid, was a commercial underperformance. As a result, Epic did not renew their SOLAR distribution deal, causing the label to cease operations in 1993. [18][19][20] 3rd Avenue disbanded soon after.
Over the next two decades, the SOLAR catalog was purchased and sold by various companies (including label The Right Stuff Records in 1996), with Canadian independent record label Unidisc gaining control in 2009. [21] "Freak Me" and "Wiggle It", the two tracks that did not make 3rd Avenue's debut album, leaked onto YouTube in 2018. 3rd Avenue's debut album, along with the catalogs of many of their SOLAR labelmates, was re-released to various music streaming channels in October 2019 as a condition of a new shared global ownership agreement with BMG Rights Management. [22][23] As a result, a deluxe version of Let's Talk About Love was issued, attaching all of the various mixes from both singles to the parent project for the first time.[14]
Solo Careers[edit]
Pearl continued writing and producing for other artists, including "Sweat" for Hi-Five member Tony Thompson's 1995 solo album Sexsational [24], lead single "I Do!" for Dean Phil's shelved 1997 album Personal [25], and "What's Really Going On (Strange Fruit)" for Tony! Toni! Toné! member D'wayne Wiggins' 2000 solo album Eyes Never Lie. He has also written or produced for Johnny Gill, Harold Travis, Groove U, Big Cee, and Smoothe Sylk. In 2002, Pearl released Lost Inside, a solo R&B/Hip-Hop album under the name Moe-P on MoSound Records, and more recently co-wrote "Lady In My Life" from Al B. Sure!'s 2009 album Honey I'm Home.
References[edit]
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Joel Whitburn Presents Top R & B/hip-hop Singles, 1942-2004 - Joel Whitburn - Google Books. Google.ca. 2010-07-02. ISBN 9780898201604. Retrieved 2023-06-08. Search this book on
- ↑ "Dick Griffey, Founder of Solar Record Label, Dies at 71". New York Times. October 4, 2010. Retrieved December 24, 2022.
- ↑ Stephen Gayle (July 1982). "SOLAR Empire Strikes Gold". Black Enterprise.
- ↑ Rothenberg, Randall (August 23, 1989). "THE MEDIA BUSINESS: ADVERTISING; Groups Plan to Protest Malt Liquor Campaigns". The New York Times.
- ↑ "Black Music Month: Dick Griffey & SOLAR Records". June 24, 2010.
- ↑ Solar Records UCLA
- ↑ Whitburn, Joel (July 13, 1999). "Joel Whitburn's Top R & B albums, 1965-1998". Menomonee Falls, Wis. : Record Research – via Internet Archive.
- ↑ "Billboard Top R&B Albums (for the week ending August 1, 1992)". Billboard. Nielsen Business Media, Inc. August 1, 1992 – via Google Books.
- ↑ "Major Labels Stay Hyperactive". Billboard. June 27, 1992.
- ↑ "Times 3 by Times 3".
- ↑ 11.0 11.1 "BMI | Songview Search".
- ↑ "Album Releases: 3rd Avenue - Let's Talk About Love". Billboard. June 3, 1992.
- ↑ "Billboard R&B Singles Charts". Billboard. Nielsen Business Media, Inc. July 18, 1992 – via Google Books.
- ↑ 14.0 14.1 14.2 "Let's Talk About Love". Spotify.
- ↑ "Album Releases: 3rd Avenue - Let's Talk About Love". Billboard. June 13, 1992.
- ↑ "Billboard Hot R&B Singles". Billboard. June 13, 1992.
- ↑ "Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs". Billboard. July 17, 1992.
- ↑ "An Invitation to Love - Album by The Deele | Spotify". Open.spotify.com. 1993-01-01. Retrieved 2022-12-24.
- ↑ ""Hip Chic" by Deele".
- ↑ "THROWBACK THURSDAY: "Two Occasions" by The Deele". Congress Heights on the Rise. February 12, 2009.
- ↑ "Right Stuff Licenses SOLAR Masters". Billboard. April 27, 1996.
- ↑ "Amid a Racial Justice Reckoning, Pioneers of Rap, Reggae, and R&B Recount Their Struggles to Get Paid". Pitchfork. July 27, 2020.
- ↑ "Unidisc: Our Story".
- ↑ "Hi-Five Singer Thompson Goes Solo". Billboard. May 6, 1995.
- ↑ "Singles Review: Dean Phil - I Do". Billboard. February 8, 1997.,
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